Who needs Armando Ianucci when the real thing is twice as funny......I've been e-mailed the transcript of Andrew Neil's interview with Tory shadow chief secretary to the treasury Phillip Hammond earlier this week on the Conservative plans for a "bonfire of the quangos". Its quite long but it's a hoot. Read on......
Speakers: Andrew Neil
Phillip Hammond
Andrew Neil: So how many do you think you’ll get rid of?
Phillip Hammond: Well this isn’t a crude bonfire of the quangos. What David has said this morning is there are some quangos which we will need to keep because they do jobs which are properly at arms’ length from government. There are others which will need to be radically reformed and there are some which can be scrapped altogether..
AN: So how many will you get rid of?
PH: We’re working our way through that process.
AN: So how many will you get rid of?
PH: I don’t have a total number, we don’t know yet at this stage…
AN: You’ve been in opposition 12 years. Has it only just dawned on you to cut quangos?
PH: All my spending departmental colleagues are looking at the quangos that answer to their departments and categorising them into these three categories.
AN: How many will you create?
PH: Well we haven’t said that we won’t create any new bodies, for example the Office of Budget Responsibility…
AN: So that’s a new one you will create.
PH: It’s a key part of our plan to create a fiscal…
AN: No I understand the purpose, but it’s a quango. Office of Tax Simplification?
PH: Er, the Office of Tax Simplification also a key part of our plans.
AN: So that’s two. An Australian-style sports commission?
PH: An Australian-style sports commission?
AN: You promised that too.
PH: Er, ok. But…
AN: So that’s three.
PH: OK, but Andrew but the point is every body whether existing or proposed will have to pass the test that David has set out this morning…
AN: Yeah but you propose them. A Skills Advisory Service?
PH: They will have to pass the test that David has set out…
AN: So that’s another quango.
PH: …this morning. Do they perform a technical function that happens to be done at arms-length from government, do they perform an allocation function which needs to be politically impartial or do they perform a transparency function like the Office of National Statistics…
AN: A Defence Export Services organisation, that’s another one you’re going to create?
PH: Well that’s a body frankly that existed that existed until very recently…
AN: So you’ll create another quango?
PH: the government has folded it in to another body and we’re saying that it needs to continue to operate in order to support our…
AN: I’m sure there’s good reasons for it all, creating these 17 new quangos that you promised…
PH: Andrew we’re talking about 1,100 quangos in total…
AN: Yeah but you can’t…I’ve got 17 here you’re going to create if you get into power. You can’t give me 17 you’re going to get rid of.
PH: I can promise you it will be a lot more than 17.
AN: Well give me 17?
PH: Well David’s announced two this morning…
AN: Right, so far you’ve got net 15?
PH: I can’t promise you about the Potato Board because we haven’t looked in detail at that yet but we all know there are hundreds of quangos that we know no longer need to operate independently, at arms-length from government.
.....wonderful stuff.
Labels: Andrew Neil, Eddie Barnes, Phillip Hammond